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October Class 8 Orders Near 22,000

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North American Class 8 orders in October nearly hit 22,000, according to ACT Research.
The monthly number arrives as a marker of the frustration gripping trucking when it comes to equipment.
Orders could be much higher given fleet demand, but the troubled supply chain won鈥檛 let truck makers raise production to meet that. There is scant inventory. Costly materials are rising again 鈥 already ordered trucks are hit with repeated surcharges. Fleets are sharing that unexpected cancellations are occurring.

Mihelic
鈥淭he breadth of the challenge is so broad,鈥 said ACT Vice President Steve Tam. 鈥淚t looks like it will stretch well into next year, if not all the way through next year, before we kind of put these bad memories behind us.鈥
Class 8 orders were 21,900, according to ACT, which cited preliminary numbers the truck makers will adjust shortly. A year earlier, orders were 39,089.
Meanwhile, feedback from some fleets is that truck makers are canceling some orders, Rick Mihelic, president of Mihelic Vehicle Consulting in Lewisville, Texas, told Transport Topics.
鈥淚f you ordered a truck six months ago, a lot of related prices have gone up; and somebody has to compensate for that somewhere in the process. Somebody [at a truck maker] could make a lot of cost adjustments to the order. Or you can just cancel the order and have [customers] resubmit it,鈥 he said.
Mihelic said he was told by 鈥渕ajor fleet buyers鈥 at recent industry events that had happened to them.
鈥淲hen you start collecting orders for trucks in the backlog, at some point they don鈥檛 mean anything if you haven鈥檛 the ability to actually build them to a schedule,鈥 he said. 鈥淲e used to call it 鈥榳ater in the backlog,鈥 鈥 he said, referring to his time at Paccar Inc.
As for when limitations clear up and production moves steadily forward, he said, 鈥淚t鈥檚 challenging to think of all of the production issues in all of these factories being fixed all at the same time. A lot of things have to be worked out for the supply chain to get back to being healthy.鈥

Stuart
"It is a new time,鈥 said Darry Stuart, principal at DWS Fleet Management, a limited-time-executive transportation and fleet management business based in Wrentham, Mass.
Asked what the fleets he works with are seeing, he responded with what sounded like a lament.
鈥淥rders canceled, reorder and a new price. No real delivery date, and in some cases questionable pricing,鈥 he said. 鈥淎lso as we move forward, higher deposits for orders. And for the small guy, no negotiations on prices.鈥
The conditions are bad for the entire industry, said Don Ake, vice president of commercial vehicles at FTR. 鈥淭he industry, as far as equipment goes, is stuck and it鈥檚 difficult to get unstuck.鈥
FTR pegged preliminary orders at 24,500.
鈥淭here are no winners and losers. There鈥檚 just losers. There鈥檚 no way to get around this,鈥 Ake said. 鈥淭here鈥檚 no way to make things fair, or make things good.鈥
Amid what he called unprecedented conditions, he pointed out everybody is trying to do the best they can.
鈥淭he truck makers wish they could sell more, fleets wish they could buy more, the suppliers wish they could supply more.
鈥淓verybody has had their stress level raised,鈥 Ake said. 鈥淭he amount of stress, personal and functional, is just much, much higher than normal.鈥
Truck makers described the situation in various ways.
Daimler Trucks has opened its 2022 order book in North America with 鈥渞ecord incoming orders for the first days,鈥 Jochen Goetz, chief financial officer at Daimler Trucks & Buses, said during an earnings call in late October. 鈥淪eptember was the second-highest order intake month in the history of Daimler Truck Group and our order book is at a level we haven鈥檛 seen ever before.鈥
At Volvo Trucks, in the third quarter its North American Class 8 orders climbed 75% to 21,750. Truck deliveries were up 67% to 10,222, compared with a year earlier, Volvo Group CEO Martin Lundstedt said with the release of its latest earnings.
鈥淚t鈥檚 a question of fleets needing to both renew and expand their fleets,鈥 said Lundstedt. 鈥淏ut the persistent problems in the supply chain have meant that we from time to time have been forced to stop or slow down production.鈥
ACT Research: Preliminary NA Class 8 and MD Orders Pull Back in October 鈥 ACT Research (@actresearch)
At Navistar, a unit of Traton Group, one executive expected pent-up demand will continue to spill over.
鈥淭he disconnect between customer demand and truck maker delivery capability due to component delays will likely continue in 2022,鈥 said Steve Gilligan, vice president of pricing at Navistar.
鈥淭he general 2022 outlook is positive with solid underlying economic growth,鈥 he said, 鈥渁nd the increasing carrier profitability is benefiting on-highway product demand.鈥
At the same time, Paccar Inc., in its latest earnings call, reported it recently had 10,000 trucks 鈥渙ffline鈥 that were largely but not completely finished due to supply chain shortages.
Tam said ACT has heard estimates as high as 35,000 for red-tag trucks. 鈥淲e think that number has come down, but it is still way more than it should be.鈥
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